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kneeshooter
kneeshooter
Am I not reasonable?
Am I unreasonable to ask for interview expenses?

Come to Manchester on Friday they say; Pay my train fare I say; Hmmm they say.

Honestly. I could say rude things and compare recruiters to sales and marketing people, but I like harrytc too much now.

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robcee From: robcee Date: February 7th, 2006 09:56 am (UTC) (Link)
I have never worked for, or been itnerviewed by, anyone who paid interview expenses...
kingandy From: kingandy Date: February 7th, 2006 09:59 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, me either. I think the general principle is ... you do want the job, don't you? It's not like it's purely for their benefit...

I have heard of people having their bus fare paid for interviews, but that was by the DSS because they'd been out of work for ages. They also bought him a suit.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 10:00 am (UTC) (Link)
Clearly neither of you work in the public sector :-)
kingandy From: kingandy Date: February 7th, 2006 10:04 am (UTC) (Link)
So, what, is it an internal job? You think the taxpayer should fund your career progression?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Internal in the sense that it's also the public sector, which is the largest employment sector in the UK.

I'm coming at this from a perspective of having normally gone for interviews with employers that do offer expenses - universities, councils and some parts of central government.

I thought it was standard practice on inter-city interviews. Clearly outside of my cotton-wool cocoon the world is a much harsher place.
lsowersby From: lsowersby Date: February 7th, 2006 10:26 am (UTC) (Link)
I was offered expenses for the last couple I went for, also public sector (Housing Associations)
kantti From: kantti Date: February 7th, 2006 11:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I got expenses for my interviews with my current employer (big corporate), but it was a milkround process, so maybe it's different when it's not milkround.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 10:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Is there any pattern to that in terms of distance/sector/size of company?

I've done a fair few interviews that have been significant distances from where I've been based at the time (Oxford > Lancaster for one; and a couple in London) where the costs would have made me think twice about going - especially if there was a risk of being invited along "just to make up numbers" (though I'm too arrogant generally for that to happen as a rule).
robcee From: robcee Date: February 7th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC) (Link)
not really - apart from that almost all have been private sector of varying sizes. But even then the British Library job in central london didnt pay expenses either...
gaius_octavian From: gaius_octavian Date: February 7th, 2006 09:58 am (UTC) (Link)
No, quite reasonable I think, if they want you to interview in a city other than the one the job's actually in.
davefish From: davefish Date: February 7th, 2006 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
To be honest, I've never specifically asked can I get the expenses, I've always just assumed that I was going to get the expenses paid, and asked for them afterwards. The costs for train/flight and taxi can soon build up, they want me, they should pay for it.
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november_girl From: november_girl Date: February 8th, 2006 09:48 am (UTC) (Link)
*shocked that there are places that don't*
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mr_h_r_hughes From: mr_h_r_hughes Date: February 7th, 2006 10:45 am (UTC) (Link)
I have been paid travelling expenses by Private sector employers in the past.
november_girl From: november_girl Date: February 8th, 2006 09:48 am (UTC) (Link)
I haven't. :-(
ikkleblacktruck From: ikkleblacktruck Date: February 7th, 2006 11:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Assuming it's the one I think it is, did they pay up last time?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 11:36 am (UTC) (Link)
I phoned them, they told me to request in writing, I did, they sent me the paperwork but I never claimed it for various tedious complicated reasons involving my conscience.

I still have the paperwork somewhere.
ikkleblacktruck From: ikkleblacktruck Date: February 7th, 2006 12:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
So why the change of heart now?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
The "special" circumstances that surrounded my trips last time don't apply this time.

So I'm just checking.
ikkleblacktruck From: ikkleblacktruck Date: February 8th, 2006 11:26 am (UTC) (Link)
If the Manchester interview is with the agent, don't they have a Bham office?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 8th, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
They're doing the tests (for those that have to do them) in their Manchester offices as I guess they are the closest to Warrington. As I (hopefully) don't have to do the test I can see the agents at that venue while others are testing.

It would either be a case that the agent doing the interview has to see all the candidates for consistency - but you'd think video conferencing or something could be used.
ikkleblacktruck From: ikkleblacktruck Date: February 8th, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
A prime case for innovation, methinks.
scary_lady From: scary_lady Date: February 7th, 2006 12:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
My third and final interview for the job I am currently in was in Luton. I live in Manchester. It was private sector, and I was not offered and did not expect travel expenses.

From both Jem's and my experiences, I would say that "Normal" practice in private sector is to do initial weeding out interviews either locally to the interviewees (in a hired hotel conference room for eg), or as telephone interviews, and then to expect the shortlist to visit your HQ regardless of its location.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: February 7th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah - that makes sense. Well, the "initial interviews locally or by telephone" bit :-)
miss_soap From: miss_soap Date: February 7th, 2006 09:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
My clients pay interview expenses including flights, trains and hotels but that's banking. When I was headhunting in IT expenses only tended to be covered for second-round interviews.
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