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From: ikkleblacktruck Date: January 9th, 2004 08:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Would you feel the same way if you had been directly affected? The Americans always do everything big.

Is tighter security really an over-reaction in the face of terrorism? If it stops even one atrocity, is it not worth it?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: January 9th, 2004 08:40 am (UTC) (Link)
I feel like cutting and pasting from earlier comments about child abuse.

At what cost is liberty? If we remove crime from banning people from being on the streets is that a worthwhile trade? If not, where should you draw the line?
From: ikkleblacktruck Date: January 9th, 2004 01:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
If banning people on the streets will help, I'm all for it! They just get in the way of the cars anyway.

I'm interested to know what comments about child abuse you feel are pertinent.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: January 9th, 2004 01:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was referring to our previous debates about the cost to society of "protection" measures. If we locked up anyone who looked at a child, been accused of a crime, or Googled for "Osama Bin Laden" then we might, at the cost of our liberties prevent some crime.

I think it's too high a cost personally and have no desire to live in an extreme police or nanny state. We seem to disagree on this.
From: ikkleblacktruck Date: January 10th, 2004 03:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't remember supporting any of your examples per se, but there are obviously degrees in everything so I presume you are taking an extreme stance, which rarely works to prove a point.

Perhaps we should start by exploring just what "liberty" actually is? I mean it's obviously a concept subject to various conditions and limits, so what are the limits and who gets to decide what they are, and why?

Do you think you would be happier in an anarchic commune?
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