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gaius_octavian From: gaius_octavian Date: April 5th, 2005 11:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Many photographers look down on cameraphones and digicams, but I don't mind them per se; I see them as gateway cameras onto the hard stuff, Canikon SLR. But anyway, it is extremely annoying that SLR users get picked on when at any time I could glance up and see a dozen people getting bad pictures all around me. I suspected that a big venue might have silly rules; I'm much happier shooting bands with people I know in, in clubs run by people I know.

Might have been interesting to try shooting from the balcony with my 200mm f/2 and a 1.7x teleconverter, tho'... if I could get 5 kilos of camera in :-)
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: April 6th, 2005 01:30 am (UTC) (Link)
What annoys me about compacts is people using them "all the time" with "automatic flash from too far away". There were a couple in front of me where at every point in the second set one or the other of them was taking video footage with their Polaroid digicam, and a chap behind me whose outstretched hand, with a camera, spent again most of the set, hovering about an inch to the right of my cheek.

I guess it's also the fact of "if you want to watch an entire gig through a viewfinder or LCD then do it properly or stay at home and buy the DVD" - it ruins the live gig experience to have tunnel vision. Which is why I didn't miss my camera for most of the gig, and perhaps partly why you didn't miss yours at all.

I've shot from the balcony there before with a 200mm lens (with the 1.6x of the camera to 320mm effective). Reasonably satisfactory.

Of course, I took some phone shots too - but I won't get those off until later, and again knowing the characteristics of the equipment I didn't bother except during the big "all lights on" moments.

Pretentious moi?
gaius_octavian From: gaius_octavian Date: April 6th, 2005 08:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Not pretentious at all. At a gig you can either enjoy the performance itself, or you can enjoy the process of creating powerful images of artists you admire (or, if you're working, pictures that'll sell) but to show up to a gig of a band you like, spend the whole time fussing with a little digicam, and have no real photos to show for it, seems a waste of time and money to me! With the exception of the 1% of Leica owners who do actually use them, getting quality photos requires being willing to lug around a big SLR+lenses and that's a fact.
steer From: steer Date: April 6th, 2005 02:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
People with cameraphones at gigs drive me mental. What the bloody hell drives them to stand there with their arm in front of my face for hours clicking away I don't know.

"Was the gig good?"

"Well, I've a sore arm and I didn't pay attention to the music, but you should see my collection of blurry photos of lights."

I'd shoot them.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: April 6th, 2005 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Don't read my latest post then ;-)
steer From: steer Date: April 6th, 2005 02:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not sure what you mean -- you refer to a "tirade against the camera phone" but I can't see such a tirade -- perhaps I am not in the right group to see it?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: April 6th, 2005 02:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn, my shameless overexaggeration is exposed.
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