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From: ikkleblacktruck Date: October 23rd, 2003 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
It's time religion withered away out of irrelevance, really.
taoist_goth From: taoist_goth Date: October 23rd, 2003 07:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I think the crux of the meaning of the bible lies in the translation from the original Hebrew.

For instance, the ten commandments could have been translated as the ten promises, as the hebrew word means both. And the word shalt in Hebrew has no tense, so it could have meant "shall in future", hence the ten commandments become the ten promises by God that all mankind shall eventually not kill, not covet oxes etc. etc. which actually makes some sense.

Also the phrase "no man shall lie with another man" apparently originally included the additional "in his wife's bed" which obviously completely alters the meaning, inplying it's OK to do it elsewhere.

Anyway it's all a bunch of cobblers, innit?
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: October 23rd, 2003 09:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Anyway it's all a bunch of cobblers, innit?

Frankly yes.
nattydreadi From: nattydreadi Date: October 23rd, 2003 10:36 am (UTC) (Link)


I don't think that the bibl is irrelevant, and I don't think that Christianity or any other religion for that matter is about to die out.

In our subculture of acceptance, there seems to be one group of people who are continually picked on and 'bullied' and that is the Christians. I think that their lifestyle choice is as valid as that chosen by a gay person or a hindu or a goth. Different societies will treat different people differently but Christianity will not die out. Perhaps it will become less prevalent in the UK - but in South America there has apparently been an 'outpouring of God's love' (according to my evangelical cousin) where people are being converted continually. A bit like the reformation.

Christianity can be relevant to today's society - especially true christianity rather than a pharasaical religion. If you meet a 'proper' christian today they are unlikely to quote chapter and verse to you than to extol the virtues of Gods love and acceptance. People still read the bible but in a different light.

Christianity is not a religion so much as a lifestyle choice - it is one that gives hope to people without much to live for and allows ugly people to get to know each other and get married without suffering the stumbling block of first impressions.

I believe in God, but I detest the traditional christian lifestyle with a passion. I have faith of my own choosing and I think that the only people who immediately dismiss christianity as being archaic or pointless have either had a run in with some shockingly King James focussed Anglicans or haven't looked to deeply into the religion. It is a bit of a sweeping statement but I do like controversy.
From: feanelwa Date: October 23rd, 2003 01:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nice of them to bother including "Judge not your fellow man, lest ye be judged", and to point out that St Paul was a bigoted old shit and not Jesus. Not that I do Christianity either, but they could at least have tried to do it properly.
kneeshooter From: kneeshooter Date: October 24th, 2003 02:50 am (UTC) (Link)
What were you expecting? Impartial journalism? There's no such thing.

I suspect they did it as properly as they wanted to.
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